the reds that we have been breeding here at Alpha and Omega loft, are direct mcknight stock, we have bred many of them, and at this time we are making available only the finest bred, the cream of the crop, every bird that we sell will be like selling a part of our hearts, we love the quality , and vigor of these birds that much, the price is because of the quality we are posting. your heart will jump with joy when you handle these animals, from my experoence these are the finest reds in usa, i have not foud better. if you have any questions you can call me 916 896 9068.